Lubby these place where about a half hour from where i was staying. I stay in greene county when I'm upstate and this is the county(ulster) right below green county. I am on a misssion now to get more pics up there along with pics down here on the island. The trip to kingston is abnout 2 hours and to saugerties it's about another 15 mins or so on the thruway. But that is the time it takes me from valley stream.