About planes ditching in water

**Bruce** · 01-17-2009, 03:23 PM

Reading about Flight 1549 the other day got me thinking about an weird incident that happened in Sag Harbor about 20 years ago. I was a radio operator at the time at a police station and got a call one night around 6pm, and still daylight from some nuns in a convent on the bay in Sag Harbor. The were all excited and said they had just watched a white plane crash in the water in front of the convent about a mile offshore. They said they could even see the prop/s kicking up water as the aircraft struck water. One nun was watching with field glasses. Anyway I had to go through the routine sending out search parties. rescue etc. An extensive search was conducted, but no aircraft wreckage was ever found, nor was a plane ever reported missing in the vicinity of the New York or New England area! The nuns were questioned and the who thing was legit, but I think it was a little weird.

This is the convent where the nuns saw the alledged plane crash in Sag Harbor

**Curly** · 01-17-2009, 03:28 PM

That is pretty strange. I cant see how someone could mistake a plane crashing for anything else. I assume the authorities did a thourough search of the area. Maybe they saw some type of boat kicking up a rooster tail? Seaplane?

**Richit** · 01-17-2009, 03:29 PM

Very interesting....They saw it crash or they just saw a plane in the water?

**Bruce** · 01-17-2009, 03:57 PM

They saw the plane come down and impact the water and disapear. One of the nuns kept the area under observation with field glasses till arrival of the first rescue boat arrived on scene. Normally I would write this incident off as mistaken identity, but where I was talking to them first hand the whole time, I tend to believe something unusual had taken place. I did a Yahoo search on Phantom Planes today, and see this is not the first time an incident like this happen. see article below.
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Phantom Plane Crashes

Unexplained cases of planes going down, the impacts are heard and felt... but no sign of a crash is ever discovered.
Phantom airplane crashes are a relatively recent phenomenon, but there have been several cases reported. The scenario usually goes something like this. Witnesses see a plane going down, often in flames. They hear the crash and feel the ground shake as the plane impacts. Sometimes smoke and flames are seen, and witnesses can smell spilled fuel. Upon investigation, however, no sign of a crash is evident. Not only is no wreckage ever found, but no record of a missing or delayed flight is catalogued. So what are these people seeing?

"Unusual Files" has gathered several of these mysterious reports from around the country. Here are the highlights:

Plane Vanishes Near Long Island
UFO ROUNDUP Vol. 2, No 3
January 19, 1997
Editor: Joseph Trainor
People in Westbrook, Connecticut were amazed Wednesday morning, January 15, 1997 when they heard that a single-engine plane dive toward the waters of Long Island Sound... and then vanish. According to the newspaper The Day, “The Coast Guard, state Department of Environmental Protection, two rescue helicopters, fire departments from Westbrook, Old Saybrook, Madison and Clinton, and some marine patrols and private boats searched 100 square miles after a man reported he had seen a plane dive into the water. Daniel Bowes of Meetinghouse Lane was having a cup of coffee at about 7:30 a.m. at West Beach on Salt Island Road when he saw a plane flying low over the water, according to Ralph Buck, a captain of the Westbrook Fire Department. He told authorities it looked as if the plane took a nose dive, though he didn’t see a splash, Buck said. No airport in the area reported any planes missing, according to state police Lt. Cliff M’Sadoques.” At 4 p.m., the Coast Guard called off the search. No trace of any aircraft was found.

Three women reported seeing an airplane trailing smoke and falling from it, objects looking like parachutes.
Montana Mystery
C.R.I.F.O. ORBIT Newsletter,
Vol. 3, No. 1 - April 6, 1956
Publisher, Leonard Stringfield
Three women in the Ovando, Montana, area, about 50 miles northeast of Missoula, reported seeing an airplane trailing smoke and falling from it, objects looking like parachutes. A ranchwoman told officers she saw a “board-like object” fall from the plane. Sheriff Ed Barrow and a deputy, despite falling temperatures and four feet of snow, made a ground search, joined by a ski-equipped plane which flew over the designated area, but nothing was found. Two days later, there was a new hope when a boy living near Ovando reported an explosion he had seen on a hillside near his home. He described it as a “big explosion” with red and yellow flames. The time and general location given by the boy agrees with the stories told by the three women, officers said. Malmstrom AFB officials at Great Falls and Civilian and CAA authorities all agreed that no planes, military, commercial or private were missing. On Feb. 18, Carl Schirmer, coordinator of the Montana search and rescue team announced, “There is nothing warranting any further search. The Sheriff went up where the disturbance was reported to be seen and could not find a thing.”

Sighting, Screaming, But No Crash
The Cincinnati Post
August 13, 1976
Butler County, Ohio, deputies discontinued a search yesterday afternoon for a plane which reportedly had crashed in Reily Township near Imhoff and Indian Creek Roads late Wednesday night. Deputies said an amateur radio operator heard what he thought was a distress call from a plane believed to be flying from Oxford to Cincinnati about 11 p.m. About 1:45 a.m. yesterday, George Mosley, 1203 Azel Avenue, Hamilton, his son and two other boys became separated in the same area while coon hunting. During the separation the boys said they saw a white flash in the sky at treetop level, then heard screaming and a crash. Airports in Hamilton and Butler County had no record of any small craft filing a flight plan during those hours. Deputies used a plane and walked the area in search of a downed plane Wednesday night until fog set in on the Reily area. The search was continued yesterday morning and discontinued after nothing was found.

One spotter said she saw it go out of sight behind a hill, then heard something like an explosion.
The Ghost Plane Incident
C.R.I.F.O. ORBIT Newsletter,
Vol. 2, No. 10 - Jan. 6, 1956
Publisher, Leonard Stringfield
Nov. 18, 1955. The first reports told of extensive search parties combing the mountainous region of Dark Hollow, Pennsylvania, looking for a plane believed crashed. The search began after Dale Murphy, civil defense coordinator of Cumberland County, said he received reports from ten GOC members of either hearing or seeing a plane, “probably in trouble,” flying about 1,000 feet. One spotter said she saw it go out of sight behind a hill, then heard something like an explosion. However, checks with various air control agencies failed to turn up any reports of either a plane missing or in trouble. Air-sea rescue planes were dispatched by Westover AFB in Massachusetts to aid ground crews in the search. The planes were requested after two flares were reported over a deep ravine in Dark Hollow. But, the aerial search by the Air Force and the Civil Air Patrol along with nearly 300 firemen, police, civil defense workers and volunteers found no trace of a crashed plane. But the persistence of flares renewed the searchers efforts. On the 20th, yellow flares were reported at 1:30 a.m. and 6 p.m. At 9:30 that night Murphy ordered sirens blown on all fire equipment in the region. Fifteen minutes later, another flare arched into the sky. Finally, on the 22nd Nov., the search was halted, and the “ghost plane” became a legend.

**ChrisF202** · 01-17-2009, 06:19 PM

Very creepy ... several years ago my family and I saw what appeared to be flares and weird flashes of light on the horizon in the Napeaggue Bay by the old fish factory and the art barge near my grandparents beach house. We surmised there may have been a boat or plane in trouble, our neighbor called the Coast Guard and was later told that they found nothing despite a search with the USCG, East Hampton Town Marine Patrol, and the Suffolk County Sheriff's Marine Unit.

I have also heard stories of ships in the New England area and out in the Atlantic picking up mysterious static followed by a garbled report of a ship being attacked by German U-Boats and/or Merchant Raiders followed by more static as the ghostly transmission ends.

**MikeyC** · 01-17-2009, 06:54 PM

I've heard stories of Phantom Ambulances, never really heard of the planes before.

**Bruce** · 01-17-2009, 07:14 PM

My own opinion, as stupid as it may sound is, that there is some type of "time slip" going on, which for some reason tends to deal with aircraft more frequently, in that at certain times, for reasons unknown, observers on the ground may be seeing something that has happened in the past, or will happen in the future. Just my opinion. Don't know anything about the paranormal.